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Below is an alphabetical list of Items we think might be ok but are are unsure of for various reasons including:

If you decide to use a product containing any of these ingredients please do a blocking test after a few days and report the results to Tesa or Wendy

 

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NEW June 22, 2007:  FDA Issues Dietary Supplements Final Rule
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced a final rule establishing regulations to require current good manufacturing practices (cGMP) for dietary supplements. The rule ensures that dietary supplements are produced in a quality manner, do not contain contaminants or impurities, and are accurately labeled....The final CGMP and the interim final rule are effective August 24, 2007"

 


Algae, Blue Green Algae,  Cyanobacteria, Spirulina, Seaweed, kelp, Chlorella, Irish Moss, Laminaria cloustoni (algae) extract, Laminaria Ochroleuca (a marine plant that lives exposed to intense light), etc.

We wonder if they are in a different class to earth grown plants given they are grown in water in rocky and/or sandy soils.  Several  marine biologists who were contacted have responded that there is no evidence collected that algaes contain salicylates.  They are listed as salicylates in Dr. St. Amand's book, however a GG member informs us that Dr St Amand's office have approved kelp in a product (See archives: Feb 8, 2005,  SAL: Gloves In A Bottle) [New formulation no longer contains kelp - 05/12/16] and also stated that they've changed their mind about kelp's status since writing the book.  They now conclude it doesn't contain salicylates (except they state to avoid medicinal kelp which is contradictory if kelp doesn't make sals!).  Given the conflicting reports coming from that source about all sea plants we think it best to give it an Unsure status.  Click here to see further information on chlorella

This status is to the best of our knowledge at this time and we'd certainly appreciate any blocking reports, or reports of good progress, using one or other products containing any sea plant.  Whatever we receive will be listed here:

1 person using a makeup base containing an algae extract has reported not blocking. (06/01/10)

1 person using 3 different brands of chlorella has reported not blocking on any of them (07/07/10)

Alpha PXP Forte

contains only 100% natural ingredients: *specially selected rice grains* that contain Alpha PXP and *aquatic Alpha Spirulina (a micro-algae. Itīs a single-cell plant).* PXPs are *polysaccharide peptides*. Each PXP molecule contains a complete amino acid profile, complex carbohydrates, cofactors, vitamins and minerals. http://www.alfapxp.com.mx/EN/pxp4.html

May actually be chemicals and ok but without understand if the process of extraction eliminates salicylates, it must remain here. 

(USA: 08/11/16)

Arabinogalactin (sometimes called a gum,)

*Sal-Unknown but highly suspect

Arm & Hammer Dental Care Fluoride Toothpaste, Original Baking Soda, Maximum Strength

(contains Mint)

Aveeno Radiant Daily Moisturizer, no SPF;

contains Glycine soja; Soybean Seed Extract

Avon Skin-So-Soft Original Bath Oil Spray & Skin-So-Soft Original Moisturizing Bath Oil'

mixed half and half with rubbing alcohol are suggested by Dr MercolaOlder preparations MAY be *Sal-Free but we have seen no current ingredients.  If anyone has access to them, we can confirm the current status.  Maybe carry on handkerchief rather than applying to skin.


Bazooka Sugarless Bubblegum (1 report of blocking)
Blue Green Algae

Burbur [Nutramedix]

More information re the extraction process needed. (05/07/19)

 

Camphor; 4-methylbenzylidene camphor (as far as we know,

although camphor is not a salicylate, any ingredient with camphor contains salicylates as a trace impurity, since much camphor is extracted from natural plant sources).

Carb Blaster (AUS-03/08/020-BC: 9313923030568)
Colgate Barbie (blocking reports) Barney, Tweety & Bugs Bunny
Colgate Phos-Flur Cherry & Bubble Gum Flavor (No Sugar or
       Saccharin - Freshens Breath)(USA)
Colgate Prevident Very Berry Gel For Sensitive Teeth
      (USA-01/05/09)
Colgate Gel-Kam Gel For Sensitive Teeth, Bubble Gum, Fruit,
     Cinnamon Flavors (USA) [The Gel-Kam products are used
     AFTER brushing. They are gels that do go on with a brush,
     but are not indended to replace your toothpaste. The flouride
     content is 1000 parts/million. It is available over the
     pharmacy counter at drugstores, and no prescription is
     needed.]


(All the above are on this list due to Barney being reformulated.  Colgate are all suspect but, apart from Barney, we have no reports that they have changed and no other blocking reports.)

Chewing Gums (all) *might* be contaminated with Salicylates from

previous runs during production & contain a small amount of sals in their base, but whether that is enough to block is unknown. If you decide to chew them anyway don't choose a mint (many Bubble gum flavors also contain some mint) & perhaps steer clear of the natural Cinnamons also, and see the blocking test instructions (remember that partial blocking isn't easy to detect without mapping over a good period of time).

Chlorella Pyrenoidosa (an algae like spirulina)

"In the fifteen years I have been involved with edible algae I have never come across any reference to the presence of salicylates, either naturally-occurring or as a result of additives to growth media, in Chlorella pyrenoidosa.  CP is the only strain that we use in the manufacture of our products.  Being an alga grown in controlled fresh water conditions (artificial ponds) I would consider chlorellas to be the least likely alga to contain salicylates. What I'm saying here is that we certainly wouldn't want people to assume that ALL encapsulated chlorellas are free from manufacturing additives.  In addition, chlorella that has been tableted might possibly present a problem due to the variety of compounds used in the industry as binders and die release agents."  Tim Sara, President & CEO, Nature's Balance, Inc 

GG would like to hear any reports of progress or blocking when using this or any other sea plant.

1 person using 3 different brands of chlorella has reported not blocking on any of them (07/07/10)

 

Cold-Eeze lozenges in cherry or orange flavor only, not citrus or mint

(Low-Sal - 2 ppl reported blocking use only when blocking is the least of problem)

Coppertone Shade Sunblock, Oil Free Gel, SPF 30 contains
     Homosalate (USA-01/07/31)

Dental Care Baking Soda Cinnamon Gum (couple of reports of
     blocking)
Douches should be considered a topical product, and the ingredients checked carefully.

Dove Shampoos & Conditioners

A member in the US has alerted us to the fact that they all contain Borage Extract.  Another US member says her children are exceptionally Sal-SensitiveTM and they don't block on those she uses.

(06/03/22)

 

Efferdent (Flavor Unknown)
 

Glyconutrients; Glyconutritionals

Mannose; Galactose; Fucose; Glucose; Xylose; N-acetylneuramic acid (sialic acid); N-acetylgalactosamine; N-acetylglucosamine

Should be Sal-FreeTM in themselves but I talked with a Mannatech reprasentative about their AmbrotoseR and I'm sorry to say that she was not very helpful regarding the processes used to isolate the above chemicals. Although they are probably ok, their information just isn't clear enough for us to say there would be no contamination (especially the aloe).  Also, Ambrotose contains proprietary ingredients which they will not disclose and they did not respond to my question about whether there were salicylates in those undisclosed ingredients. 

 

I am waiting for information from NutratoseTM regarding their glyconutrients and other ingredients.

 

Check all glyconutrient products very carefully.


Handling Hay; one person reported blocking.  It's an unknown.

 Irish Moss; Chondrus crispus;Carrageen; red algae

(We think this would be ok in FiberFit as it is an algae, a fibre and ingested)

Irish Spring Deodorant Soap (Original - green box)

No real confirmation that this contains any new/salicylate ingredients (potential blockers) however Dr St Amand became concerned so we decided to err on the side of caution by listing it as unsure.

 

Jasmonate: Winter refers us to jasomone, which is derived from
     jasmine flowers.  Jasmonate could be a pure chemical and we
    do suspect it is like linalool and other fragrance chemicals but we
    are unwilling to risk approving it without more information on it.

Kelp (FTC apparently approves this in topical form but not in medicinal levels taken orally)

Kids Dental Kare Toothpaste, Strawberry & Bubble Gum
      Flavor (323) 461-9942 (888) (USA) (I need someone to call
      the company and ask them what salicylates are in their
      product and let me know please)

 

Meradimate (previously, Menthyl anthranilate)

Tesa & the GG Sal Team consider this is not a salicylate but Dr. St. Amand's office has stated that they are concerned about it & prefer Guai'ers not to use it to be on the safe side.  It would have to be contaminated with sals to block.

Metabolift protein bars:

concentrated herbals contain enough sals to overwhelm the digestive process and block.   In those cases it is best  to err on the side of caution to be safe.  In products such as protein powders and bars it is impossible to know if there is enough to block or it would be treated by the body as food, so best to assume that the herbals are there as a supplement and stay away. 

 

Nail Polish:

It was originally thought that sals in nail polish would not be a problem but now we think it might be absorbed. So, to be on the safe side, you might want to avoid nail polish with sals. 

Nicorette Gum, original (no flavor). 

One member has said she blocked on it and had that backed up by mapping.  She is going to call the  company and see if she can find out what they are not listing.  Mint and Orange may block many. 

 

Noni juice

It's difficult to rule on Noni juice as, on the face of it, it seems like sometimes it is just a rather expensive pureed juice but one also sees claims made of its healing benefits.  If there are any salicylates in this product, it MAY be too concentrated for the digestive system to process completely, resulting in some of the salicylates not being altered by the liver, finding their way to the kidneys and blocking some Guai'ers.  There have been reports of blocking and not blocking.  As always, it depends on one's personal blocking tendency.   This particular product outlines dosages to be taken throughout the day: http://www.tahitiangold.com.au/faq.htm#6

 

Oil Of Olay Daily Renewal Body Wash. 

No sals are listed on the label however the label also contains wording regarding fragrance that is suspicious and might contain enough botanicals to block (i.e. "scented to revitalize", and on the back label, "revitalizes your senses with an inviting bouquet of rich florals and hints of vanilla and spice in a rich luxurious creamy lather.") The company will not disclose information not on the label without a letter from your doctor about the state of your health that the unlisted ingredients might impact upon.

Peridex

(we don't know for sure that it contains mint but we know it has a decidedly minty flavor.  A little sal in the flavor might be ok for some, as it is in PLAX mouth rinse, but if this does indeed contain mint we don't know in what measurements)

 

'Off! Deep Woods Insect Repellent V Spray, Unscented (TOA)

23.8% DEET 6 oz'  We have no information regarding the inactive ingredients in it.

 

Pampers Kandoo Flushable Wipes with Pop Top Dispenser

Some time back, a GG member was told that all Pamper's wipes now contain aloe. Check with the company before using these.

Ingredients: Water, Dimethicone, Propylene Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Acrylates/Vinyl Isodecanoate Crosspolymer, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Propylparaben, Ethylparaben, Polysorbate 20, Fragrance

(USA-05/09/20-BC: 0 37000 44990 4)

Piperitone

(*Sal-Free chemical which should be ok (check Pherobase) but there has been some concern regarding possible  contamination.  It has a close relationship to menthol.   See more on menthol)

Plak Smacker Dinosaur Fluoride (Bubble Gum) 800-245-1825 (USA)

Taken off the list merely because of the latest Colgate toothpaste scare.

Pycnogenol

A proprietary blend of Bioflavonoids extracted from Pine bark and needles.   The extraction process of the blend is not clear and its inert ingredients are unknown.

 

Rapeseed (Brassica napus)

I knew it was a plant but not what family it was from so I looked it up. Rapeseed (Brassica napus), along with canola, is a bright yellow flowering member of the family Brassicaceae (mustard or cabbage family). The name derives from the Latin for turnip.
It's difficult to define the status because if it is 'processed' rapeseed then, according to this site it contains negligible amounts if any.

However, I've no idea at this stage what constitutes "processed". My best guess is that it's likely to be as Low-Sal as Canola is.

If the product is one you really need or want, you can perhaps call the company who makes the product and ask them how they process the rapeseed.
 

Razors with strips

(even non-sal content strips can be risky because companies cannot guarantee that there is no aloe in any strip.  They may be contaminated by previous runs of sal-content items  - they don't clean their equipment after every run.  You can remove the strip & clean the edge before use IF your reversal progress is ambiguous & you are looking for cause(s).  Do the blocking test - several people have reported no blocking with the Gilette Mach 3 with vitamin E)

Relive

(We *think* this contains concentrated herbs even though a member was told it didn't.  Why the need for a special product if these herbs can be attained relatively easy by eating them?  We also had a blocking report.). 

Revlon's Naturally Glamorous Blush-On All-Day Cheekcolor

contains Royal bee jelly is made from a secretion from bees special glands & as such one would think it didn't contain salicylates however one source claims it contains pollen extracts.  At this point it  needs more investigation but certainly pure Bee Jelly with no added ingredients should be ok. Check with manufacturer to discover the ingredients and how it is made. 

 

Samento

Nutramedix told us via phone (Craig) that they use the bark of the plant (cut up) and steep it like a tea in a special type of alcohol for a period of time (he thought around a week). They then take that and add other ingredients that are proprietary and that is how their product is made. Terry thinks the special type of alcohol is part of the proprietary method of extraction that they mention.

Because of this latest information from the company [i.e., that they use the BARK rather than extracted chemical(s)], I cannot list it as Sal-Free*. Although, according to Nutramedix, the Cat's claw that they use does not inherently contain salicylates, we know that most plants can manufacture them when needed. This is one that people will have to choose to risk or not which is no different from any other plant that may not inherently contain salicylates.

 

We've had one partial blocking report regarding Samento.

 

Secret Sheer Dry Antiperspirant Deodorant Gel Solid Regular Scent

is confusing, i.e. 2 versions with same BC: 3700071183 found and some contained Castor Oil and some didn't)

Senokot tablets (not capsules) (01/09/03)
Simple Green Household Cleaner (CAN/USA-01/04/06) contains

sassafras and we have no info that it is just a fragrance)

Spirulina
St. John's Bread Extract - may sometimes be used as a flavoring &

thus would be ok in a supplement if it didn't have an medicinal effect. Call the company to find its use in your product and let a Sal-mentor know.

Stamp Glue

Ingredients are unique to manufacturers.  Even if they contained sals it is hard to imagine licking the odd one would be a problem but you can use a wet sponge or purchase self adhesive stamps if you have a lot to lick.

Sure Deodorants: these were all recently reported to be
    reformulated with Caster Oil thus they are under
    investigation.  See *Sal-Free list for those already cleared
    and *Sal-Full list for those not. Please send any new
    purchases, or any you've checked out, to a Sal-mentor as
    per submitting products above. 
Sure Antiperspirant & Deodorant Gel Solid Clear Dry
Sure Clear Dry Antiperspirant Deodorant Gel Solid
Sure Ultra Dry Antiperspirant Deodorant - Vanishing Dry 
 
        Formula
Sure Unscented Antiperspirant; Deodorant Stick
Sure Ultra Dry Powder Fresh Deodorant

 

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Tom's of Maine Natural Homeopathic-Style Whitening Toothpaste; Apricot
(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine Unflavored Homeopathic-Style Toothpaste with Baking Soda

[only comes in fluoride-free] (NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine  Natural Goofy Grape Liquid Toothpaste for Children

(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine Anticavity Goofy Grape Fluoride Toothpaste Liquid Gel for Children

(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine Natural Anticavity Toothpaste for a Dry Mouth with fluoride: Apricot

(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine Natural Antiplaque Tartar Control & Whitening Toothpaste: Apricot

(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

Tom's of Maine Natural Antiplaque Tartar Control & Whitening Toothpaste: Fennel

(NTOA-USA-05/05/26)

 

The Homeopathic items has been removed from the *Sal-Free listing due to it having been discovered that the homeopathic calendula officinalis L. is in a strength [3X] that may block.
 

The apricot flavored t/pastes contain both apricot and orange oil in the apricot flavor which inherently contains salicylates (based on Feingold's information) but at unknown levels and the chemist at Tom's of Maine said the apricot and grape flavors were a concern for salicylates.   Apricots are listed as very high in salicylates.  We  have no idea what the levels of fennel are in the anticavity dry mouth.

 

Tom's said the amounts of salicylates that we received from them before (re their other toothpastes) were provided by the manufacturer and they have not received that information regarding the apricot or grape products. They said that if they get anything new to report, they will let me know. I cannot list any of the above items as *Neg-sal without those measurements so they are now listed here instead thus allowing individuals to make the decision whether to use them or not. 

 

Several blocking reports have been received regarding all Tom's toothpastes. (USA-05/05/27)

Note: Obviously blocking 'can' be a very subjective experience.  Sometimes members report blocking because of various experiences which may or may not have been related to what every guai'er might consider adequate testing procedures


Thimerosal (salicylate analogue)

Based on it's chemical structure, thimerosal (incl. it's synonyms) is not a salicylate but rather, it is a salicylate analogue.  We don't think anyone knows if this particular analog blocks, or indeed if any do, but we do know that parabens, which are also analogues, don't.  However, there are no synonyms for the parabens that contain the word salicylate.  At least that we know.  We also don't know if Thimerosal would convert to a salicylate in the body.  We think it best to avoid analogs that haven't yet been put to the test till we know more.  Or at least keep a very close eye on your response/progress and keep us informed after blocking tests and/or mapping.
http://cerhr.niehs.nih.gov/CERHRchems/thimerosal.html
Synonyms: Merthiolate; Ethyl [2-mercaptobenzoato(2-)-O,S]-mercurate(1-) sodium; Ethyl (2-mercaptobenzoato-S) mercury, sodium salt; Mercurothiolate; Merfamin; Mertorgan; Merzonin; [(o-carboxyphenyl)thio]ethylmercury sodium salt; Sodium ethyl mercurithiosalicylate; Thiomersalate; Thimerosal; Ethylmercurithiosalicylic acid sodium salt; Merthiolate sodium; elicide; o-(ethylmercurithio)benzoic acid sodium salt; merzonin sodium; SET; sodium ethylmercuric thiosalicylate; thimerosalate; thimerosol; thimersalate; thiomerosal; thiomersal; sodium o-(ethylmercurithio)benzoate; ethyl(hydrogen o-mercaptobenzoato)mercury, sodium salt; nosemack; merseptyl; benzoic acid, 2-mercapto-, mercury complex; elcide 75; ethyl (sodium o-mercaptobenzoato)mercury; Elcide; Ethylmercurithiosalicylate-sodium; Sodium salt of (2-(carboxyphenyl)thio)ethylmercury;

 

Vicks Vapor Inhaler

(According to drugstore.com it contains lavender oil, which is a salicylate. Although it isn't applied in the usual way to the outer surface of the skin per se, we are concerned that the vapors would be absorbed directly by the nasal tissue as it is inhaled. One needs to make an informed choice to use it. In the short term it may very well be worth the risk. In the long term please do a blocking test, get mapped and/or be conscious re your symptoms/cycling)


Yam based progesterone which is not *SP (prescription pure), PF (pharmacy grade) are possibly contaminated; yam contains salicylates


5HTP (OK unless herbs added and if extracted from
Griffonia it is fine as long as it is pure.

 

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Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue & Irritable Bowel: Treating Symptoms Treating Cause

By Dr Gregory K. Penniston
(The re-titled new edition to
The Guaifenesin Guide)

A unique book that gives sufferers and their families clear explanations and practical information on every type of treatment for these distressing and hard to manage disorders. It dispels the misconceptions, that lead some people to dismiss these conditions, with thoughtful explanations and reasoning. This book gives emphasis to eliminating the conditions by addressing their 'cause', with a commonly used 'over-the-counter' medication, guaifenesin and provides detailed, easy-to-follow guidelines.

 

 

              

 

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Parting the Fog: The Personal Side of Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

By Sue Jones, a GG Member

Parting the Fog" is a candid, first person account of what it is like to walk in the shoes of someone suffering from fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue syndrome. It relays the seriousness of this condition in an easy-to-read manner, while employing humor and focusing on hope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crack Up at the Wake of Dawn: Everyday Poetry to Incite and Delight Your Soul

Another great Book from our GG Member Sue Jones!  If you are a fan of "Parting the Fog", you won't want to miss this book. Although it isn't specific to fibro, you WILL find chapters you can closely relate to, since many topics are dealt with. Some of the poems may make you cry, others make you laugh, and still others trigger a thought or give you greater insight. Whichever the case, you won't be left unaffected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take My Hand: The Extraordinary Story of a Girl Named Janis

In Take My Hand, Audrey Revell (a long time member of GG) paints a vivid and moving picture of the life and indomitable spirit of her daughter Janis, an exceptionally talented musician and composer despite having lost her sight as a child together with progressive hearing loss.

 

 

 

 The Places That Scare You: A Guide to Fearlessness in Difficult Times

By Pema Chodron

 

Getting Unstuck: Breaking Your Habitual Patterns & Encountering Naked Reality

By Pema Chodron

 


 I Remember Me

 

 
 Fibromyalgia: Show Me Where It Hurts DVD

 

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